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What is the reason why the female employee in Ali case was expelled from the company? Will she sue Ali?

Because she damaged the reputation of the company, she said that the company forced her to travel. After the police investigation proved that there was no problem, she arranged a business trip early in the morning. She is the project docking person, and anyone who does this job must travel. She also said that her colleagues forced her to drink, but after the police investigation, there was no such thing. She arranged her own dinner, and no one forced her to drink. She also said that the company's top management did not care about this matter, but the company's top management saw that she had reported the case, and the police did not find out any results, so they could only wait for the police's results to deal with it. In fact, there is nothing wrong with it, but she can't wait for a moment to run to the canteen to pull banners and make trouble, so that the public buried Ali's corporate culture. How do leaders keep employees who put the company's face on the ground for the New Year?

Of course, I won't judge whether Ali is right or wrong here, but this woman must be lying to some extent. If she had waited for the police investigation from the beginning, there would not be today's ending. Although she is a victim, she may not be happy. It can be said that none of the parties to the incident won the case. They all lost miserably. Her story reminds everyone in the workplace, both men and women, to avoid this kind of thing in the future, otherwise those who meet with ulterior motives will be defeated and riddled with lawsuits.

She may sue Ali or apply for labor arbitration first, but the result is that the female employee has a high probability of losing the case.

Ali female employees were recently dismissed by Ali, and this dismissal is different from the dismissal and layoffs that everyone usually hears.

Generally, when layoffs occur, the company will compensate employees at least N times, that is, employees will be compensated for several months after working in the company for several years. This is stipulated in the labor contract law, and the company must implement it. Some companies are more humane and will give 1-3 months compensation.

But compensation is based on no-fault dismissal, that is, employees have not caused harm to the company. The situation of female employees in Ali is different. Ali used "dismissal" instead of "dismissal".

The expulsion means that Ali feels that the female employees are seriously at fault and Ali's rights and interests have been violated. If Ali's reasons are established, then the female employees will not get any compensation after being fired, even if they go to arbitration or litigation, it will be useless.

The question now becomes whether Ali's female employees hurt Ali's rights and interests.

This matter should start with the original 8000-word essay. At that time, Ali female employees pulled banners in the canteen and called the male leader to sexually invade her, saying that Ali sheltered the male leader and did not deal with it. At the same time, the female employee exposed the facts she thought on the Internet.

As a result, the whole network is boiling, and everyone is scolding Ali, thinking that Ali executives let male leaders invade female employees. This incident did have a great impact on Ali's reputation.

So does Ali really have a problem? From the police's later briefing, we found that things had changed for the better. From one-sided support for female employees, netizens became more than half questioning the motives of female employees and questioning her remarks.

The police informed that everyone should have seen it. Originally detained on suspicion of rape, it was later changed to obscenity and given administrative punishment. To tell the truth, if it is not a sensation caused by the incident, it will not necessarily be considered obscene.

In addition, the situation between another hero of the incident, Hualian Man, and Ali female employees is more complicated. The female employee took the initiative to invite Hualian male to her hotel room, but she didn't mention being invaded by Hualian male after calling the police that day (the female employee in Ali was awake on the same day as Hualian male for the first time). A few days later, when I called the police for the second time, I suggested that Hualian had been sexually assaulted.

The above is the content of the police report, and I don't want to comment too much. Tell me if Ali is doing well.

In the information conveyed to the outside world, female employees said that Ali sheltered male leaders, but it was not.

Ali's hr suspended the male leader after receiving complaints from female employees and did not immediately dismiss the male leader according to the requirements of female employees. There is nothing wrong with this practice.

Ali can't assume that the sexual assault really happened because the female employee said that the male leader sexually assaulted him and hr was not at the scene. How to judge? In view of the fact that female employees have reported to the police, how to deal with it must wait for the results of the police investigation. This operation process is very reasonable. Otherwise, whenever you see an unhappy person in the future, ask him out for dinner and pretend to be drunk. The next day, you will tell the company that you have been sexually assaulted and ask for dismissal. If the company does it, it will not be chaotic.

But Ali's female employees are in a hurry, and Ali must fire the male leader immediately. As a result, they didn't "expose" him. The point is that what she said is quite different from the real situation.

Everyone knows what happened afterwards. The female employee is now fired by Ali. Judging from the public information we have obtained, it is no problem for Ali to do so. This time, even if Ali is a capitalist, I choose to stand in Ali. Female employees do have problems.

Of course, female employees can go to arbitration or litigation if they think that Ali's dismissal is illegal.

According to the law, if you are illegally fired, the company needs to pay twice the compensation, that is, 2n compensation for employees. Only employees should have conclusive evidence to prove that they have not made mistakes and have not harmed the legitimate rights and interests of the company, otherwise arbitration and litigation are just a waste of time and energy.

The reason for dismissal is actually very simple. Ali official has given the corresponding explanation, you can have a look.

According to the current public media reports, Zhou provided a screenshot of the notice to terminate the labor contract, in which we can clearly understand why Ali fired her.

Core factor: violation of company regulations

I wonder if you think Zhou violated this rule? From my point of view, it is obviously true!

First of all, Zhou's remarks had a bad influence. Undoubtedly, after this incident was exposed, Ali was arrested on the Internet, and the negative comments made by the whole network against Ali led Zhang Yong to make a public statement. At the same time, several senior executives in Zhou's department were forced to leave, which obviously had a great impact on the relevant departments in Ali. You know, some of the people who left were executives who had just been dug up from other places, and this moment was ruined.

This is equivalent to directly damaging Ali's economy and reputation, especially the latter.

Secondly, it is the fact of deliberately fabricating, spreading fiction or spreading unconfirmed news. A lot of information released by Zhou is inconsistent with the police report. Obviously, she lied. So Ali naturally thinks that it spreads false information. Everyone should be responsible for his actions. Naturally, if you lie and have a huge negative impact on the company, the company can naturally be dismissed according to relevant regulations.

Secondary factor: Zhou asked Ali for more.

As can be seen from the notice of the termination of the labor contract, Ali hopes to properly handle this matter with Zhou, and at the same time give relevant humanitarian care expenses, which obviously means giving certain economic compensation. But Zhou refused.

From the news released by other channels, this woman has been absent from work for several months, and Ali still pays full salary as usual, but this person seems to have been unwilling to go to work and always wants to get full salary, which is obviously not in Ali's interest.

Since I don't want to sit down and have a good communication, I'm sorry, but I have to be fired according to the regulations.

Will you sue Ali? There is no doubt that it will!

Why? Such a liar, do you think you can act according to the moral values of ordinary people? Once a normal person is indefensible, he will be ashamed, will not argue with others and run away directly.

And such people, which have normal three views, must be all kinds of hooliganism, unreasonable. So even if she ignores this, she will still go to labor arbitration. If the arbitration fails, she will certainly continue to sue, and try to guide public opinion, make things worse, and then try to profit from it.

Of course, whether Ali's operation to terminate the labor contract is in full compliance with the law can only wait for the final result after arbitration. We outsiders don't know at present.

Lscssh technical officer's point of view: On the whole, from Ali's point of view, this is a very correct thing. Such a person will not be good for the company, but will be a disaster. This has made a bad start. If not handled, I'm afraid there will be more similar times in the future. In addition, this is also a reminder to similar people in society. Don't think that making up and spreading fictional facts and engaging in public opinion will definitely make a profit.

A few years ago, Liu was framed by a rotten girl! Liu is full of words! Who is this fucking fool who covers his face with chess pieces? This is indeed a downward trend ... [covering your face] [covering your face]

The reason for being fired is to spread false statements and violate company regulations.

She may sue Ali, but according to the investigation results of the Public Security Bureau, it is difficult for Zhou to win the case. The public opinion is so great that Ali must have made this decision after careful understanding and research.

According to media reports, "Ali female employees were sexually assaulted" and the labor contract was terminated this week.

Judging from the notice of termination of the labor contract disclosed by the media, the reasons for dismissal are: publishing or spreading inappropriate remarks, or deliberately fabricating and spreading fictional facts, or spreading unconfirmed news, which has caused adverse effects.

Zhou also responded and could not accept it. There are no mistakes in your work, and you have no right to be fired. The two parties in the case, one was given the highest administrative punishment by the public security organ, and the other was transferred for prosecution for suspected criminal offence. The handling by the judiciary proves that the question I gave back is not a' fictional' fact.

The key question is whether Zhou's statements on the company and social media are true or not. If we compare Zhou's remarks with the notification from the public security organs and the handling results of the procuratorate, there is indeed a big factual discrepancy. There is a significant difference between administrative punishment and criminal offence. If the content is true, it is not administrative punishment, but criminal responsibility.

We netizens are really easily misled by public opinion. On the one hand, most netizens are kind and willing to listen to the victims' remarks. After all, besides the actual accident, it takes courage to think of your real name and publicly tell the truth about the murder. On the other hand, we have preconceived ideas about the weak. Women in sexual assault cases belong to the victims and the weak. The facts told by the weak are easily accepted, and it is easier to gain trust and support. Internet is a double-edged sword. It is no problem to use public opinion to safeguard one's rights and interests. But if you don't truthfully state the facts to the public, it may involve fabricating facts to influence public opinion and put yourself at a disadvantage.

What are the reasons why female employees in Ali were expelled from the company? Will she sue Ali?

1. Ali's female employee was fired because Ali believed that the female employee had spread false information and violated the company's employee discipline system.

Ali Company's Notice of Termination of Labor Contract stated that the female employee spread false information such as "being raped by an executive, the company will not deal with it" by pulling banners in the company canteen, distributing leaflets, shouting with loudspeakers, posting in the intranet forum, etc., which had a bad influence on the company. The company terminated the labor contract relationship with the female employee in accordance with the provisions of the Employee Discipline System of Alibaba Group.

According to the information notified by the police, female employees in Ali were not forced to travel or get drunk. Neither Wang Mouwen nor Zhang suspected of sexual assault constitutes rape. Wang Mouwen was detained in administrative detention on suspicion of compulsory indecency. Zhang was arrested for compulsory indecency and appealed to the court.

2. There is a high probability that female employees in Ali will be solved through legal channels.

Ali female employees said that they did not recognize the company's processing results and would apply for labor arbitration with a high probability.

If it is stated in the notice of termination of the labor contract of Ali Company, it is unlikely that the female employees of Ali will win the case.

I personally watched a news recently. A woman who was seven months pregnant posted that her husband didn't support her and asked her to go out to work. She got the support of all the women on the Internet and strongly denounced her husband, saying that he is not a thing and everything is ugly.

Then someone went to interview her husband. Her husband said that he would give her 8,000 yuan a month for living expenses and let her concentrate on protecting the fetus at home. However, she felt that the living expenses of 8,000 yuan were too small, and it cost more than 10,000 yuan, which angered her husband and made her go to work to earn money. She was so angry that she posted on the Internet to scold her husband for not loving her and let her go out to work.

Many male netizens left messages at the bottom of her post, asking those female netizens who scolded her husband for being fine to explain. No female netizens dared to leave messages to support her remarks.

Ali, a female employee, is very similar to this woman. For her own self-interest, she can ignore the reputation of others, the feelings of other people's wives, and Ali's reputation. Everything is for money, and there is no justice at all in order to get back at others.

I'm looking forward to her suing Ellie . . . . . A blockbuster.

Ali, Ali's employees were fired from the company. What is the reason? You can think with your head. Of course, he had some influence on the company, and then the executives at that time must have a hard relationship. It must be about finding this female employee! Therefore, Ali employees were expelled from the company. It's hard to say whether he will sue Ali. But even if he sues, he can't sue Alibaba Group with his strength.

Last time, a female employee in Ali was sexually assaulted, but because of insufficient police evidence, it did not constitute rape. This may be the case in today's society. Who is stronger and who is better? But this society is also transparent. As long as you dare to do it, some people dare to shoot it and some people dare to report it.